This is How Drivers Feel About Uber’s New Driver App (and new surge)

Chatting with Rideshare drivers is always an experience. This industry has some of the most interesting, charismatic, and just outgoing people I have ever had a chance to work with, so every conversation I have with a driver feels like a completely new adventure.

These days, many of my interactions with drivers have been related to the new driver app that Uber rolled out over the past three months. Many drivers are really enjoying the new driver app as there are a number of really nice improvements. For one, the map interface is much cleaner and the navigation has improved.

 

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You will also see improved messaging capabilities, an overhaul of many key screens, and your earnings are even easier to find. We won’t do a complete rundown of all of the new features in this post, but you can read about them all here.

These welcome additions should clearly help drivers, but even with all of these improvements over the last few weeks, the vast majority of my conversations with drivers have been about one thing…

The Charlotte Surge.

It sounds like a myth doesn’t it? Like a story passed down from rideshare driver generation to rideshare driver generation, except the Charlotte Surge is a real thing, it’s a big part of Uber’s new app, and drivers really hate it.

To be clear, the Charlotte Surge is just another name for Uber’s latest surge pricing system which instead of giving drivers a multiplier, gives drivers a flat dollar amount that will be added onto there regular fare as the surge fee.

This means drivers see maps that look like this:

 

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Notice that instead of multipliers you see dollars that represent a flat fee to be added to your non-surge fair.

This means that a driver that picks up a rider from downtown Chicago and drives out to the suburbs won’t get between 1.5x or 3x the total ride, they’ll get whatever the flat fee is, which could be much lower than they would have earned with the old app.

What really has drivers up in arms is that riders are still charged a multiplying fee. So the cash that used to go to the driver, now seemingly is going to Uber.

Well, after a few weeks and dozens of conversations with rideshare drivers about the new app, we decided to gather quantitative data from rideshare drivers across the US to understand how they are feeling about Uber’s new app, and the results of our survey are in!

So let’s take a look at what we found.

Takeaway #1: Uber Drivers Believe Their Earnings Have Decreased

Drivers that we surveyed have overwhelmingly expressed their dissatisfaction with their income after Uber’s latest Driver App update. In fact, 90% of drivers nationwide expressed that they are now making less or the same amount they were making before.

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Drivers working over 35 hours per week claim to be making about $288 less per week than they were previously, while drivers working less than 25 hours per week are said to be making about $101 less per week. This represents a 27% and 26% difference in overall weekly earnings.

 

Takeaway #2 Uber Drivers Are Not Fans of the New Surge and are Receiving Fewer Requests

The next logical question is why. Why are rideshare drivers making earning less?

Well, you would think that the easy answer to this question would be the “Charlotte Surge” that we’re hearing so much about, and it certainly looks like that is part of the answer.

When we asked “What do you dislike the most about the new Uber Driver App?” 26 of 145 respondents to that question mentioned “surge”. Here’s what they had to say:

Surges are very bad. They show a dollar amount as opposed to a percentage.  We make less $.

Earning details are delayed and surge prices are capped so long trips are not worth it.

Uber charges the rider the old fare with surge and stealing my portion

We then asked flat out “Do you feel you make as much money from surges now after upgrading to the new Uber Driver App?” 103 out of 145 respondents to this question had a negative answer indicating that they did NOT feel like they were making as much money from surges now after upgrading to the new Uber Driver App.

Takeaway #3: Uber Drivers are Receiving Fewer Requests

Clearly, Uber’s new surge pricing is affecting driver earnings, but that’s only part of the story. Drivers are also saying that they are receiving significantly fewer trips after the update.

A whopping 70% of survey respondents said they were receiving less trips.

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We did not expect this.

Why would drivers be receiving fewer trips from the new app? We would think that this number would stay consistent.

Well, drivers could be feeling this way for a number of reasons. One being the technical issues that Uber seems to be experiencing. Again, when we asked drivers “What do you hate the most about the new Uber Driver App?” they had the following answers:

The app freezes more, the GPS is worst…

It has issues crashing. Causing drivers to lose trips

Glitches with trip processing

Can’t get the navigation to work most times, Missing trips and payments.

It keeps freezing so I have to force quit it often and the seeing lower number of requests

These are technical issues that we would expect Uber to figure out pretty quickly.

We also found that drivers in general just were not used to, or did not like Uber’s new layout. When asked the same question as above, other drivers had the following answers:

Some things are harder to get to

Features missing. Trip type too small on ping. Nav button too small. Missing cancel and acceptance rates.

Freezes. Poor Navigation

It appears, that a number of Uber drivers are having problems just getting the app to work as it should and also getting used to the new interface. While it appears this is having a significant effect on drivers, we would expect the kinks with the app to be worked out.

Takeaway #4: Uber’s New App is Making Drivers Consider Other Services

One troubling sign for Uber is that the Uber’s new app appears to be making drivers think twice about driving with Uber. Drivers are claiming that Uber’s new app is affecting them enough to consider using other services.

 

It’s no secret that most drivers work with at least 1 other rideshare service regularly, however, Uber tends to be the app most drivers see as their main app. Uber’s new driver app could be pushing drivers to Lyft, Via, and Juno.

So how can drivers continue to find success even in the face of “The Charlotte Surge”?

So it’s clear that drivers aren’t fans of Uber’s new driver app and their flat-rate surge pricing, and it does appear to be affecting the wallets of drivers. But, there are a few things that drivers can do to ensure that they’re still maximizing their profits.

1 Forget About the Surge

Even before Uber’s new flat-surge pricing seasoned drivers knew that surge chasing would leave you driving back and forth through your city getting very few ride requests. With the changes to Uber’s driver app, not only must drivers not chase surges, but you must eliminate them from your income calculations. Meaning, don’t plan to make your money based on surges. Instead, arm yourself with information so that you can drive where the most passenger demand and the least driver supply is.

 

2 Plan Ahead When Driving

If you’re going to focus on finding the maximum amount of passenger demand and the minimum amount of driver supply, then you need to plan ahead. That means know when and where you plan to drive before you goout everyday. You should know what events are going on in your city, when the airports will be busy, when travelers will be leaving from their hotels to go to the airport, and you should always be aware of the weather.

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3 Know What’s Happening in Real-Time

Even if you plan ahead, you still need to know when certain events and happenings around your city that you didn’t plan for are ending or beginning so you can position yourself to take advantage of a peak in passenger demand. Use a tool like Gridwise ensure that you never miss out on an opportunity in your city.

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4. Track Your Performance

You cannot improve what you don’t measure.

Many drivers track their mileage for tax purposes, but the true value of tracking your mileage and earnings is so you can understand what’s working and what’s not. Track your mileage and earnings on every shift so you can understand if your performance is trending up or down and figure out what driving strategies are most profitable for you.

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Track your performance so you know what’s working and what’s not

 

Now, we want to hear from you drivers! Have you been making more or less with the new Uber App? Let us know in the comments below!

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Rene Friebe
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Rene Friebe

Another takeaway
If a passenger drives just 5 miles but the heavy traffic takes 45 minutes and the pax will tip you 20 bucks or higher it’s not possible because of the limitation

Joshua
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Joshua

I’ve been seeing significantly less ride request in the Chicagoland area. Just two days ago I received 7 dollars in 3 hours. Just ridiculous.

Tom
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Tom

I miss seeing my acceptance and cancellations %’s. Also our ratings are not real time. Like the old rating system better although now u do see a better breakdown of your ratings.

Azarnoosh Etemadi
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Azarnoosh Etemadi

I don’t like new app . Very confusing. Surge doesn’t make me money . Is very short time and usually very short trip. Is not worthed to drive in the surge aria. I don’t make money as much as before. I don’t know that Uber pay less or is new app. Sometimes in DC Uber App get froze and I lost the trip. Sometimes I wait long time and drive too much and spend a lots of gas to get somebody. I like to know what to do. In the morning when I go to Ragan Airport, Uber never give… Read more »

Michael
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Michael

I make more money with uber and delivery apps.i don’t need gridwise and i can make from 250 to 400 a day working grubhub, ubereats and rides.

Jlove854
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Jlove854

How???

UberLiars
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UberLiars

Liar

Tahir Saleem
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Tahir Saleem

The developer of this new app were totally disconnected with the needs of a driver. A driver needs fewer clicks to reach a particular screen because they are mostly using it while driving. Just the very basic going online and then offline requires 3 clicks as opposed to 2 clicks in the old app. You moniter your performance by seeing how much you made and how much time you have been online. In the old app it was one swipe. In the new app to see how much time you gave been online you have to dig deep about 3… Read more »

Jason.can197000
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Jason.can197000

Like calling the rider… like 5 swipes or clicks.

Frederic Hutchinson
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Frederic Hutchinson

Another major problem with the surge in Chicago is that O’Hare Airport is almost always surging and the rideshare lot overrun with drivers. If you dare venture into the lot you may as well immediately get in the line to exit because you’ll likely get a request by the time you’re able to get out. It can take thirty minutes just to exit. I’ve had multiple riders cancel their trip while waiting for me to reach the terminal.

Kyle
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Kyle

I have seen fewer ride requests also. I ubered a uber driver/student. he was happy he was getting all the airport rides. I said how long have you worked for uber? his reply 2 weeks. I said wait a while, you will be in the same boat im in. The longer you work for uber the less money you make. they always send me a rate uber. I did and then it gives feedback to them. so i told them what they needed to do. Take Care Of Your Senior Drivers. I love uber but there needs to be some… Read more »

Jason
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Jason

I imagine an indian person reads our review.

Gabe C
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Gabe C

Haha haha! “Yes, thank you. Have I helped you out today?”

Shawn
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Shawn

The new Uber surge model was rolled out in my city without any prior notice from Uber in South Bend, Indiana. The new surge model is nothing more than Uber’s scheme to defraud drivers in the name of “upfront pricing!” What Uber doesn’t realize is that without drivers there is NO Uber! However Uber believes they can force all the old drivers out, lure new drivers in that have no idea of surge multipliers. Uber, sorry to say that this time you pushed the envelope too far! Class action most definitely will prevail. Fraud voids all contracts in both state… Read more »

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Joe smo

Not to mention uberxl drivers now only make 2 dollars more per ride than uberx during a surge. They still charge the xl multiplier but pays flat dollar. It’s not worth the extra gas anymore. Look at the fare details. Uber loses money with every uberx surge ride but makes about 50 percent on the uberxl rides. I now log off of uberxl when its surging due to the fact most of my rides are very local and why allow uber to make 50 percent commission from me. If I do a local uberx ride with a surge I will… Read more »

Kara
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Kara

The new surge pricing is horrible. .There is zero incentive now. The average flat rate surge in my area is about $2 – $3. It is 130 am right now and I came home instead of going downtown for the surge when bars close because an extra $3 a ride is not worth it. I try not to criticize Uber but this time I cant help myself. I thought the new CEO was supposed to show drivers how important they were to Uber and how much Uber cared. The spin they tried to put on the reasons for the new… Read more »

Christy
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Christy

Not sure who’s going to take all the drunks home st 2 am…..but without my earned surge money, it won’t be me. Hope this gets resolved before summer.

Anwar
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Anwar

I am here in Detroit I don’t drive after 1 a.m anymore because it’s really not worth it taking drunks home without old surging. I think most of the drivers stopped driving after 1 am as well in Detroit. Many of Uber customers complaining that have to wait 20 to 30 minutes for rides because there is not enough drivers after midnight since surging take in away from the drivers. I hope Uber resolves this issue before Uber customers and drivers move to different ride shares

Colin
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Colin

I cannot believe Uber is pocketing our surge dollars…!!! All this hype about 180 days of change…yea, that’s what drivers are left with now that (surge muliplier) is done away with for the driver, some extra pocket cgange…!!! I also find it strange that in this article, no mention was made about the excessive amount of drivers hitting the streets, I have definitely noticed a decrease in ride requests just in the last year due to this problem and i’ve been driving for 28 months. Uber, quit robbing your drivers and put a cap on the hiring already, or more… Read more »

Arthur Adoff
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Arthur Adoff

I am definitely making a lot less money than before. In a semirural area, late night surges are the bread and butter for drivers. Now there is little incentive to follow a surge. it is appalling that Uber still collects surge prices from passengers and does not share them with drivers. My pay has been cut between 40%-50%. I am much more apt to use Lyft app. Uber-wake up and end your GREED!

Kiana Henry
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Kiana Henry

This was so helpful. I’m currently in-between jobs after returning to the US from teaching English in Brazil and I wasnt worried about it since Uber has been a great job in the past. I drove out to Coachella to catch the surges and make a killing like I did in 2018. But then I saw this flat surge rate nonsense and drove for 2 hours INSIDE SURGE ZONES and caught 0 rides. I kind of had a mini meltdown and came to the same conclusions as the end of this article. Fuck the surge zones, all they do is… Read more »

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